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Vintage Electric Tracker Classic Review – $5.5k

This is thune torque sensor, but it also measures cadence and thats important, because this is a single speed, electric bike. There are no gears, no derailleur, no internally geared hub. This is a crystal light. Gearless direct drive hub motor and this thing is rated 750 to 3. 000 watts: okay, it kind of depends on your geography were in canada right now near downtown vancouver, and so here its actually 500 watts. They have different tunes that the motor controller can be set for. I double triple checked, with the guys actually got to speak with the founder of the company andrew. This thing puts out up to 160 newton meters of torque, which is just incredible for comparison. A lot of the mid drive motors will put up. You know 70 to 90 newton meters of torque, hub motors tend to be even less even planetary, geared hub motors. Its, like you know, 50 to 60, though so to see 160 is just incredible and i i think you know, if you imagine inside here, theres this copper winding and there are these stators and if you have a taller hub like we do here, you you get An increased mechanical advantage over the wheels and these wheels are 26 inch. So thats you know there are, there are definitely taller wheels out there. 27.5 28. It just works really well and ive got to say its very, very satisfying its smooth. Its quiet ill show you that a little bit later and then the battery pack, i mean this is really a star of the show right here.

This is a 48 volt system. A lot of other electric bikes are just 36 volts, so 48 volt 23 and a half uh amp hours over one kilowatt hour of capacity and thats important when youre really juicing it. That battery is 19 pounds pretty heavy. With this aluminum alloy casing and the motor is about 10 and a half pounds, i weighed this bike back at the shop. I was at vintage iron and the gentleman there helped me and it weighed 84 pounds which surprised me on their website. It says 88, so i think they have reduced the weight with the new motor tuning and i think the battery design they have these high energy density cells. I do want to call out the charge port for the battery right here. You can see its low on the right side of the bike, which thats kind of nice, because the bikes tipping towards the kickstand. So this is a little bit more accessible, but with those long handlebars just careful not to hit your head kind of turn. The bike like this a little bit, make it easier to reach, but its still in the path of that crank arm. If it were to you, know kind of pedal around and pass by the kickstand position, its right there at the center of the bike. To give you um good, even weight distribution, but it does create this pedal lock. So in some ways, theres just a little bit of crowding going on on both sides, the charger its a little bit heavier its a couple pounds fairly big, i dont know if i would carry it around with me, but the good news is it its five amps.

So its a very fast charger, its not quite as fancy as the charger that we saw in the 72 volt series where you could set the maximum charge level from 80 to 100 percent. I think all in all five amp charger – for you know 1100 kilowatt hour battery is, is great. Well, i flipped the bike around, so you can see that kickstand a little bit better and i want to talk about these cranks. These are forged aluminum, alloy, 170 millimeters, which is very standard, and then weve got these kind of vintage style pedals. Here they do offer good traction, and you know you could press snow and mud through them because theyre open like that, but theyre not not as big as some of the newer pedals ive seen from welgo. They have a bmx pedal or even a magnesium pedal. That comes in different colors, so you could get silver or black. If youre someone with larger feet, you just want a bigger surface area. I want to call out the 14 gauge spokes up front black. They look really nice and 12 gauge spokes in the rear. So these are extra thick and theyre going to give you that strength for all the power thats running through this system, just nice to see that theyve taken that step and even the rims theyre a little bit wider to support these high volume tires. You know it does kind of resemble a motorcycle and it does have that throttle action, but it is still classified as class 2 unless you pay a little bit extra.

I think its 150 bucks and you get like a little race chip that goes right here and that can unlock a higher top speed. They say up to 26 miles per hour if you want to go even faster check out the 72 volt series and i think you can get up to like 40 miles per hour – a lot of potential for this, but even for neighborhood riding like ive done today. Its just really comfortable and beautiful look at this. Its like a riser cruiser swept back handlebar here steel, so it has some vibration dampening qualities to it, and then this custom designed fork its rigid theres, no suspension thats another one of the differences between this and one of the 72 volt series, but its actually fairly Comfortable with these higher volume tires so again, steel for extra strength, weve got this dual crown setup, aluminum, alloy, very, very custom. This is a 20 millimeter axle down here. So for comparison, a lot of bicycles and electric bikes just have a nine millimeter axle with a quick release. Skewer this has boost hub, spacing so its a little bit wider and just really sturdy again, almost like a motorcycle or a moped back here we have a really thick 12 millimeter threaded axle and then weve got those steel, its sort of a horizontal drop out to Get that chain tension just right. The tire specs are 26 by 2.35. These are schwabe balloon fat, frank, so, 2.

35, a little bit wider. You get a bit more air volume for comfort, since we dont have any other suspension elements on the bike. Thats really nice and its going to give you some stability side to side, and it actually makes the wheel a bit taller. So you have a lower attack angle and it just smooths across these cracks and bumps a little bit easier. These do have k guard three. So puncture protection and they have that beautiful, reflective, sidewall stripe and theyre brown, so thats part of the whole styling. If you look at these leather grips with these leather rings, locking beautiful this leather saddle and then the brown tires it just it all comes together nicely – and i do want to point out these leather cuffs right here, thats going to protect the frame. If you over steer and they make contact with that top tube, one thing we dont have here – is bottle cage bosses, so we just dont really have space given where the the battery is mounted. Instead, you could wear a backpack or you could get one of their rear racks, and then they have some panniers and trunk bag options really again for cruising around just having a good time. Its set up to look really good, but there is some utility here with these fenders. These ones are actually steel um, whereas the chain cover is aluminum alloy – and i again i talked to andrew and he said well – were going to have some that are aluminum alloy.

I mentioned that because if you scratch steel fenders over time, they could rust a little bit and this paint is just so nice i would be. I would be careful with that. So steel, steel, steel, handlebar and they do have some nice again. Vibration dampening qualities and a little bit quieter, because its just its a solid sturdy metal aluminum can sometimes rattle a bit. But look at these fender skirts on the sides and their paint match everything looks so nice and youre gon na get pretty decent coverage. If it does get wet out, we are in vancouver, it does rain here. So thats kind of a nice feature. This bike is only available in one frame size but theres a little bit of adjustment. You can do just by tipping the handlebars forward or back. I like that the saddle can actually be raised or lowered, so you can get that full leg extension if you do pedal, but with the single speed drivetrain its kind of like well, you know you can see right now that its actually in a low position kind Of makes it look cool for the photos and, if youre using the throttle, it just feels more natural, your feet go out and then kind of down versus you know straight up and down on a more active bike. If you wanted to improve ride comfort a little bit, you could swap this 27.2 millimeter diameter rigid seat post with a suspension, seat post and they do have silver ones, but then this interface for that rear light might be compromised.

You might have to figure something out. So you know its kind of set up beautifully the way it should be, and you you kind of just you know you have some trade offs. If you dont, like the cream color that you see here, they do have a graphite blue that looks beautiful as well and up to the cockpit here. So you can see, we dont have a traditional stem which would be sort of a single tube and a single clamp. This is this is a bit more custom and its connected to that swept back steel, handlebar cruiser style. I mentioned the locking grips before theyre a little bit fatter than normal, and they just have this really unique, beautiful. Look that matches the rest of the bike, theres the trigger throttle and then here are the brakes. So these are promax, lucid theyre like three. Maybe four finger levers, so theres plenty to grab on to and pull its nice. When you have a heavier bike like this, and you can go faster and on the right side we actually have that motor inhibitor so thats. What would activate regenerative braking in the past? These bikes have had like a little red button that you would press. You would have to actively engage it or intentionally press the button, while also dealing with the brakes and with this bike its only on the right lever um but yeah. As soon as you pull it right before, the the brake pads actually make contact youre going to feel the motor go and start to slow you down and recuperate some of that energy, which is really nice in the front.

Here we have a 203 millimeter disc, brake rotor from pro max, and that is excellent. A lot of your weight shifts forwards as you stop so having just a wider brake is going to allow it to cool more effectively and also just stop the wheel in a more powerful way. Um sort of like we were talking about the hub motor itself. Being a little bit taller and getting that mechanical advantage same thing with the brakes, you have a big dual piston caliper right there, dual piston in the rear as well – and this is millimeter rotor ive, seen uh some of their literature says it should be 180. I think it just depends on supply chain, whether its 160 or 180, its still hydraulic um, but i did want to point that out. It looks like you might be able to to upgrade this or or change it. I havent had any problems stopping but yeah its really nice to have that big rotor up front and – and i would like to see a 180 back here – to get that same power for stopping the 72 volt scrambler. I looked at the other day that was priced at just under 7000 bucks, so this ones about 5500 significant savings youre on the 48 volt system. The top speed the unlocked race mode is a little bit lower. The torque rating is a little bit lower. You dont have the suspension fork, but its still an amazing bike, and i can see why some people would you know maybe want the fenders or that more cruiser style handlebar that weve got here.

Vintage has been around since 2013. Ive covered their bikes uh many years and and im friends with the founder hes got a little segment with jay leno, where he did jays garage, and that was right when they got started so ive seen the style and a lot of the hardwares actually remain. The same like the display and stuff, but theyve really refined it. You know when you look at the the battery and the motor fine tuning, that the fenders everything just looks a little bit cleaner, but i love that theyre. So supportive i mean you can upgrade this to a 72 volt system. Theyll, send you different motor tunes the hardware, a lot of it is interchangeable and even having the different color choices. I really like that about this particular model. In addition to the base price, its 199 shipping to the contiguous us 75, if you live locally in the bay area, california theyll deliver it or you can just drive over to santa clara to their headquarters and pick it up for free in some ways. This is a pricier electric bike, but its just so unique, and i was surprised that the price hasnt increased very much since i covered some of these models a few years ago, theyve theyve really kept things pretty stable. So i found a shady spot here and i wanted to go over the display with you. It really hasnt changed its fairly readable, even though its not you know its, not a center mounted really big color display the gray scale.

The contrast is good. On top theres an m button, and if you hold that for a couple seconds it powers it on and weve got a battery infographic there and it has five bars. So each bar represents 20 percent capacity. Itd be nice. If there was an actual percentage or maybe 10 bars to give you more precision, but you know it kind of works and the high capacity battery on this bike will still get pretty decent range in order to use the throttle, you need to be in one of The five levels of assist, so these buttons down here theres an up and down arrow and if we take it down to zero the throttle isnt gon na work pedal assist isnt gon na work, but we could still turn on the lights. So if i hold the up button for just a second here, there we go and the display has some backlighting as well. Now this is a cree led super bright. I think its like 600 lumens and back here we have a seven led. I thought it was six, but we have two leds at each end. This used to be the supernova e3 three led light. I just love the way. This is connected to the the saddle, clamp right here, its an aluminum alloy bar and its adjustable here. So you can really dial this in youll notice that its still visible above this rear fender. I think this is is just excellent, its definitely higher quality and brighter than im used to seeing and it just it fits there so perfectly, even if you get the the rear rack or start to add some of the accessories on this bike.

So, back to the display itself, you can see were in a cis level zero. We can take it all. The way up to five and ive been doing a lot of my riding in level three, some in level five to really get those zippy shots, its really powerful, very fast acceleration and then over. Here we have our current speed in miles per hour. If i press, the m button were going to cycle through to average speed max speed, odometer trip distance trip time and back to speed. Okay, now you also have walk mode, so just like we held up if i hold down that rear wheel, is going to kick in and give us just a nice slow, smooth speed for walking the bike up, maybe like a ramp out of a cellar or the Other day i was walking this up a boat ramp, maybe just across the park, because it is a heavy bike, 84 pounds. You know its its quite a bit, especially if you had a flat tire or something, and then the last piece here is. If we hold the up and down buttons simultaneously, we get into the settings, so we can change the wheel size. It looks like theres this other input. This might be like voltage and then brightness. So one two three i can see the the screen getting brighter. I kind of like it bright and then miles or kilometers. This is where i can switch units so thats very handy.

We are in canada right now and thats where were using kilometers and stuff um, so thats it once youre done, hold the m button again for a couple seconds and were back and thats it. So with that said, maybe well hop on take this thing for a ride, so heres a shot of the display in direct sunlight and again with that grayscale. Look, its pretty high contrast, fairly visible im going to take it up to assist level 5. Just to show you how powerful this can be accelerating, i love how quiet it is its just very smooth these gearless direct drive motors. There are no gears rubbing on each other, its just magnets and its a pure sine wave converter. So your controller, its not going to buzz the same way, some of the cheaper ones, um do so lets. Do it well ease in this is a variable speed. So if i just gently touch it well, get that low power and as soon as i really push it were gon na get some some high power and speed beautiful and the cadence sensor here. Its actually more of an advanced cadence and torque sensor, apparently thune is, is the name i am less familiar with it, but its a nice combination, because there are times where, given this is a single speed. Drivetrain, you kind of cant keep up at the really high speeds, especially if you get that speed key and you unlock the 26 miles per hour.

So having having that sensor measure just movement, is nice combines with the trigger throttle, but then also having a sense torque. If i really start to push harder its going to accelerate a bit faster, especially in those those lower levels of assist, so i think its just a really fantastic setup that way and the bottom bracket seems well sealed. You know its not super clean. Some of the wires are a little bit exposed out here, but thats going to make it easier to service uh over time. Okay, guys from here, you can see that 16 tooth freewheel, ‘ tooth steel chain ring up front. Aluminum alloy paint matched chain cover theres no slap guard sticker here because its a single speed and weve got that sliding rear drop out so that keeps it really tight. The chain really isnt going to bounce around so im, going to hop on this im going to pedal along, do some pedal assist and some throttle. You can hear that motor very satisfying, and i can definitely feel that regen when im using that right, brake lever for the rear, rear wheel and its activating and its recouping some of that energy to recharge the battery. A little bit its nice when youve got a heavier bike like this its a feature you dont see very often because most of the hub motors these days are planetary geared motors. They weigh less. You dont have this cogging action which, on this bike, if i just spin the wheel, youll notice it doesnt it doesnt, continue to spin super smoothly.

It sort of winds down a little faster, because there is this. You know magnets and theyre kind of repelling in there and theyre recouping some energy, but it does create a little bit of drag if youre, pedaling unassisted well guys, that is the vintage tracker classic had a lot of fun. Looking at this, its just a really pleasant bike to ride around, i love how quiet it is, gets a lot of really positive attention and some fun conversations uh. Thank you to vintage iron in downtown vancouver for loaning me, this demo bike and to vintage electric. Its always fun to talk to andrew and get the story and get all this stats, and everything worked out for the full written review on this check out electricbikereview.com, where i have a comparison tool, you can look at the 72 volt scrambler that i reviewed recently. I can ask people about what accessories they like. Ive got a forum set up for vintage electric and its kind of nice. You get to chat with other owners and you know get the get the real scoop.

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